"Tabular Material" is awkward

[levon]

It's awkward English, and reflects the LaTeX heritage.
Should be "Insert Table", and all references to Tabular
Material should be changed to match.

[lasgouttes]

I think this should be discussed on the lyx-docs list. Mike (was it
him?) had arguments in favor. I have never liked it myself,
but I am not a native english speaker...

[levon]

After discussion, the only argument in favour was from Lars, and nobody
agreed with him I think.

​http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=lyx-docs&m=102463685219932&w=2

Agree with bug: Robin Turner, JMarc, Mike R (with reservations), Martin V,

Angus

Against: Lars

Lars, are you still deadset against using "Table" as appropriate ?

[levon]

fix

[levon]

Here is a patch. Lars, please given the reasons you don't want this
patch to go in. Here is my summary :

Pros of "tabular"

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LaTeX users will probably be familiar with it

Cons of "tabular"

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It does not form English sentences.
It is not consistent with how you read LaTeX e.g.
"\begin{tabular}" would be read as "begin a tabular environment"
It is used inconsistently within LyX. (Insert->Float->Table)
It gives the impression that a "tabular" is something different
from a "table", which it really isn't.
Angus points out that "tabular material" could easily mean the
stuff you put /into/ a table. In fact I would say that's the
natural interpretation.
It makes long menu entries such as "Tabular Material"

Lars, what are your reasons for keeping it ? I'll accept a ukase
on this, but I would at least like some kind of rationale.

You state "we have to take LaTeX terminology into account". Can you
elaborate ? I think LaTeXheads will be perfectly comfortable with
understanding what LyX's notion of a "table" actually is when exported
to LaTeX.

[lasgouttes]

FWIW, I agree with what John is proposing.

BTW, John, why do we have both LFUN_DIALOG_TABULAR_INSERT
and LFUN_INSET_TABULAR? What is the difference?

Also, shouldn't we also rename the lfuns (at least their
printed name) to something like dialog-table-insert,
table-feature and table-insert?

[levon]

-EWHATEVER

[levon]

Last I heard, Lars was starting to weaken ;)

[levon]

fixed